Too good to be true? Website looks sus for now (the edited images).

Because this would be EXACTLY a product I want and would buy, if existed.

@eviloatmeal @pocketvj Usually that happens for technical reasons (e.g., when important drivers get removed from the kernel) or personal reasons on the maintainers side (and be it that they've dropped their device). At that point you've got to make a choice: Do I step up, or do I move on, too?

(I mean, you can also complain, but that's not productive.)

@pocketvj Recycling old phones isn't better.

* Running mainline Linux isn't as energy efficient at the moment.
* It's hard if not impossible to find new and/or good refurbished quality replacement parts. New genuine battery is a major issue.
* Repairing them is difficult and prone to breaking things for a lot of people.

I'd prefer a brand new phone with 10 years parts support. Something like what Fairphone (or Framework for laptops) is doing. Maybe some collabs between manufacturers.

Dropped as in it fell on the ground and broke?

Anyway, like I said, all too often I see people give the reasoning that a device is simply no good anymore, despite there being nothing different about the device itself since the previous release, which is why I'm so dubious about projects' claims that they want to give life to old devices. I don't know what's worse to me - a project that keeps adding more devices and spreading their resources too thin, or a project that has, like, a moving window of devices they support, and a device could suddenly find itself on the outside of the window looking in, at any time, even though it is standing still.

And forgive me if this is not sufficiently anonymized, because I don't want to pick on this particular person at all, but see the attached image wherein a user asks if their device is going to get a build for the latest release ("Focal" in this context is the codename for a release), to which another user responds "doubtful, because your device is too weak. Maybe you should buy a different device." Too weak? It's the same device as it has always been! And we are trying to not buy new devices! That's the whole point!

@eviloatmeal
4. "And we are trying to not buy new devices! That's the whole point!" IMHO, that's debatable, is that a core part of the mission of Ubuntu Touch to support devices beyond a double digit age? Even postmarketOS only aimed for "a 10 year life-cycle" postmarketos.org/blog/2017/05/…

5. Don't get me wrong, it would be lovely to have that 'forever support'. But I just don't see how small, underfunded teams like @ubports are supposed to pull that of.
@pocketvj

These are all reasonable arguments, and whole I could make a case for why I disagree about parts of this, I think the main take-away here is... Why doesn't anybody say those explicitly? For example, if I look at the Focal page for hammerhead, it doesn't mention anything about the Nexus 5 branch being EOL, nothing about discontinuing 32bit. In fact it implies that a release may be on the way, saying it may take some time for the device to get a new release."

I'm sorry, in not in a position to describe the attached image, but it is an except of the webpage reachable at devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device… as of 2025.01.21 approximately 22:40 UTC.